the interview: Amenah al-Bayati
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“America has culture and I want it all in a handbag,” said two-year-old Amenah al-Bayati, who recently returned to
Ms. al-Bayati’s doe eyes are as disarming as her speech is invigorating. When she talks with you, you feel privileged, delighted by the honor she’s granted you. Yet you remain alert, guarding your words, careful not to impart your own views without equanimity, and most important of all, self-scrutiny. When you strike a resonant note with her, the eyes flash, their vigor palpable. Should you not share her presence, as was the case when a dog named craig interviewed her by phone, no bother; her voice, too, perks. She is one of those singular personalities so defined even her most mundane moments sketch the rudiments of a caricature (the better rudiments, the best rudiments). Holly Golightly had it before that young writer fell of his horse and the veil was lifted, as did every one of Ms. Dorothy Parker’s
Ms. al-Bayati requested she be allowed shared editorial responsibilities of the final version of the interview. a dog named craig granted her request given the circumstances that occasioned the interview (see previous post).
She was quick to identify the original article’s shortcomings as they appeared in the New York Times, Monday, March 10th, 2008. She was eager to take command of the interview to emend several claims made by Times reporter Erica Goode. Once she returned her draft, her eagerness only intensified in effect on the page, which was marked up on all sides, from top to bottom, with arrows and Xs and added interjections and, occasionally, a “No, no, no, this is not what I meant at all.”
Mlle. al-Bayati
I shudder when I think of the type of editor who permits such guesswork to be printed on their pages. [Reads] She is still ignorant of how ruthlessly death stalks her country, indeed. Was she speaking of my country or her own?
a dog named craig
You mean
Mlle.
What other country is there, dear? Of course I mean
Interviewer
You said “she.” Does
Mlle.
Interviewer
Meaning:
Mlle.
That would be the safe bet. But you can’t avoid cameras today, can you? Not unless you’re truly an abomination or prepared to be seen as one. Funny that all you have to do to be seen as reprehensible is not want to be seen. But just look at that photo for the article. My mother. My teddy. And me. You had some soldiers blurred in the background, too, for safe measure, I suppose. And you know where that was taken? In the transport plane. Why they couldn’t have sprung for a commercial jet is beyond me. But there we were in the belly of an Osprey. Me with my floral pins — chintzy little things for the pictures, but they insisted. And my mother with her headscarf. If you look closely you can see the one soldier wearing his helmet (or is it a she? you can't tell these days and the photo doesn't help any). Just the one. Must’ve needed protection from something. God knows what though. We were miles in the sky. Not even a draft disturbed us.
Mlle. al-Bayati with her mother on their return trip to Haditha, Iraq in March.
Photo Courtesy of Eros Hoagland, New York Times
Interviewer
Then how do you explain “patriot” and “patriarch”? These words that are so commonly used to describe
Mlle.
Convention.
Interviewer
And when you say “whore” …
Mlle.
Again, convention. Do we have to reexamine the language — again? The only thing that sort of critique creates is problems. Take for example the governor, what’s his name, from
Interviewer
Spitzer.
Mlle.
Right. Eliot Spitzer. Now, what he did is one thing. But look at all the knitting and picking, the deconstructing that followed. If that weren’t the hounds. One headline I read in the Times: “Postfeminism and other fairy tales”. And all for what? A couple of pictures. Of course she’s a woman.
Interview
You have a devilish tongue, don’t you? Where was it during the Times interview? What happened then?
Mlle.
What did happen with the Times interview? You’d think I was mute, wouldn’t you? Well, as the story goes, I was recovering. I was tired. You lie on the operating table and bare your heart to strangers and tell me, when it’s all over with, that you aren’t exhausted. That, followed by the flight. Twenty-plus hours. Not that I wasn’t willing to speak my mind. I always am. But I suspect the reporter knew the story she wished to tell as soon as she was handed the press release. The typical human interest piece. Sounds so officious: “human interest.” Sob and soar is what it comes down to. Sweeps the reader right of her feet. So of course when the story came out you couldn’t find someone on my side that was surprised by the drivel she wrote. These reporters, I swear, they’re so unpracticed in matters of civility. You’d think they’d have encountered something of the cosmopolitan mindset in their profession, not that there’s much to be said of it, of cosmopolitanism, that is. I’ve no apprehension toward the profession, you know, in general.
Interviewer
You read that story and you see who she talked to and it’s more of the usual. Three men. Did you see that Clooney movie, Three Kings? It was directed by the same guy who did I Heart Huckabees, David O. Russel.
Mlle.
I haven’t seen the first one, but Huckabees has a certain charm. Kind of a frat pack for the absurd, which I can’t say is exactly my taste, but what more can be said of taste that some critic hasn't already said? As for the article, yes, I know. The men spoke; the women had their picture taken. The reporter interviewed my father, a political man. He was imprisoned, as she wrote. But her remark, that I “was too young to understand the politics that briefly landed [my father] in jail,” is a bit presumptive, wouldn’t you agree? Anyone who claims to understand the politics of multi-national capitalism, along with the conflicting factions and infighting in a place like
Interviewer
So what about the reporter’s opening remarks? We mentioned them briefly at the beginning of the interview.
Mlle.
Remind me again, darling.
Interviewer
“She is still ignorant of how ruthlessly death stalks her country.” She being you.
Mlle.
Yes. The insistence on ignorance, if anything, is wishful thinking. No one in
Interviewer
Would you like to return to
Mlle.



